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11-06-2008, 07:47 PM

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My dad bought his first clone in 2004 and it has 1500 miles on it now. And those 1500 miles were hard miles, high revs, wheelies, donuts, wrecks, you name it has happened to that bike. But, it has withstand the punishment and held up very well. Nothing major has ever broke on that bike, and it is chinese...
If the motor was one of those ebay bombs it would have detonated long ago. There are varying quality levels with the PRC stuff, just like anything else. With so many different brand monikers on the market, it's difficult for most newbs to know what to expect with their machine. Your dad's usage averages-out to 300 miles per riding season, not exactly high mileage. Limited use will extend the number of years something lasts and if that's how much (and how) you ride, then perhaps you have your ideal setups. It does tend to give a different perspective than riding 2000-3000 miles annually. "Minor" becomes a relative term. A broken clutch cable is minor, unless you're 40 miles from home when it lets go. A swingarm pivot bolt is a small part that can have big consequences if it breaks at speed. A hub failure, well, that's just unacceptable now matter how you look at it. The best approach is pragmatic: identify the weak items ASAP and replace them. Once that's been done, you should have a mechanically stable machine.
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11-06-2008, 10:45 PM

The Bolt From Honda is still available.
Its $7 on Bike Bandit. Its On Order....

I found a NOS hub for $100 lined up but I never heard back from the guy. So I Put a Simple ad on craigslist and received a ton of replies and I Found a Perfect hub for $30.

So For less than $40, the two major Safety concerns are taken care of.

Also Today After work, on nice stretch of lonely flood plain road, My bike hit 65mph with me in partial tuck.
This wont happen again without these parts on my machine.

My 2008 Lifan has a all aluminum hub with a thin Ring Land area for the Sprocket snap ring. My 20 years Machining and Manufacturing background Calls this Suspect no matter what.

And with having almost Double the power the bike originally had its only time before the land area separates from the hub and causes issues with the sprocket and chain.

I have not found any More causes for concern on my bike other than these items. Welds look Great, Cables and paint are very nice and Both lifan Engines were sweet running reliable machines.

Keep in mind this is a 08 LIFAN so there may be other issues associated with Other makers clones that aren't found on mine or Vise Versa.

Believe me, If there is any issues. I will find them and post them. I Plan on riding this bike a lot!
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11-07-2008, 12:34 PM

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So For less than $40, the two major Safety concerns are taken care of.
That's the point...exactly. Take a good, close, objective look, make any necessary corrections and you're down the road with little-to-no-drama, not much more cash, either. Pointing out and dealing with issues like these is the best thing for the whole small bike scene; it leads to improvements. Who knows, some enterprising vendor dealing in these bikes might just decide to use OEM rear hubs & swingarm pivot bolts because it's a cost-efficient solution.
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11-07-2008, 01:48 PM

It is also good advice for purchasers of these bikes, and it is usually in the instructions from the vendor, to go over the ENTIRE bike and tighten all nuts and bolts. Install good lock washers or locknuts if any are missing. That simple step can eliminate a whole slew of potential issues.

In the OEM world, that step is usually performed by the dealer when the bike is assembled in their shop before delivery. Many of the clones are shipped directly in their crate, with the end user providing final assembly.

The hub issue is something I have heard a lot about, though never seen in person. (I don't have a CT clone but have seen several in person). I have planned for some time to get a couple for keeping at our cabin, but will be doing numerous safety checks and upgrades when I do that. Any safety tips anyone comes up with on these bikes should be posted so the vendors can hear of the issues as well as end users.
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11-13-2008, 09:43 AM

The complete hub including brakes, arms, everything is still available from Honda. Just got one a couple of weeks ago, a little pricey but Honda quality is what counts.


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